Lastly, I just saw one of the FB recommended for ESL Pro League, and this day alone has had over 500k views, which is fucking huge. Actively searching for people to sell broadcasting rights to and opening up the scene to a larger audience is literally the opposite of wronging the community. If you wanted to wrong the community, you would sit on twitch, earn no profit, eventually go bust and the esports side of the game would decay. They're risking their position as one of the leading TOs in order to stream on a platform where they could potentially get far more new viewers. How am I at all admitting that they're wronging the community? They're doing the opposite. That second point you make just makes no sense. Even if not all of 2 billion would ever watch it, the potential is still there for a huge number of people to find out about it and watch it. 2 billion users is a fucking huge number. If they're interested to keep throwing money at esports and CSGO specifically, why the hell not? I'd take a Facebook stream over content behind the paywall any day and despite what others might claim due to ongoing circlejerk, we both know most people would prefer the same.ĭude you don't understand. I dislike Facebook as much as the next person, same with ESL, but we should suck this up and see if Facebook can drastically improve or not. ![]() How exactly can competitors get better unless they get a lot of viewers? I would like to re-iterate my first paragraph again, Twitch struggled A LOT with big viewership in the beginning as well, thousands of people from all over the world were complaining about buffering / stuttering / lagging / whatever. Twitch is crap, I wish it would go out of style, but unless the competitors get better, the alternatives are worse. I mean, it was literally my job back then to watch every single game regardless of the platform, but I'm sure I could find some stats to back this up if you'd like. I remember "big dog matches" that had ~20-25k viewers on Twitch as well, back in 2016. They had a terrible start of the first season they streamed on YouTube, but like I said elsewhere, numbers got a whole lot better as season progressed, people learned where they can find the stream, realized it's not coming back to Twitch and figured out YouTube is actually not that bad. On top of this, for their youtube move, they boasted about an increase in viewership, however anyone who was watching it regularly throughout the season could tell the viewership had dwindled by a LARGE margin, we're talking EU/US big dog matches sitting at 10-20k viewers sometimes.(congratulations your premium event increased its viewership even tho it still runs on a loss, golfclap) But then again, it's not like we're not being tracked by shit ton of other websites and platforms anyway and I don't see people giving up on Google or something like that. About tracking, that one is really dumb to be honest. Sure, those numbers would be 2x bigger on Twitch, but it wouldn't be 300k either. ![]() Man, there were more than 70k people that tuned in to watch the grand finals - and that's excluding the viewers who weren't watching the stream directly on Facebook. Sure, there were multiple issues but stream worked for the most part.Īfter all of this, the streams didn't even work for many people for the first week, still doesn't work for me on my desktop, works on my laptop if I remove tracking(which is just, no comment). What do you mean it wasn't working? I can confirm first-hand that it did in fact work. Their move was poorly researched ( seeing as the player wasn't even working for the first day of dota broadcasts) and they had to "re-do" the damn player so that it had basic functions of a "stream" and if we are to even believe mr.flyingdj, their fucking pre-research was based on their "healthy facebook grps" i.e 83k people that decided to follow ESL on facebook. Let's not even talk about VODs that to this day don't work as they should for many people. I reckon most people weren't around in 2012-2014 but holy crap it was a shitshow and I've personally had a far worse experience with that platform than Facebook today. I think you're all forgetting how awful Twitch used to be. Its not about being petty, I cant even see the stream. PGL Major Copenhagen 2024 RMRs / Information, Results, & Discussion.LET'S GO G2 - WON $270k IN SKINS! Check m. 13,739 shadowkekwįree skins giveaway !drop 11,036 simple_drop07749 □NAVI vs VIRTUS PRO | PGL CS2 MAJOR COPENH. NAVI vs VP PGL CS2 Major Copenhagen 2024 E. ![]() Subreddit Rules Message Moderators Official CS:GO Blog Discord
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